Cliffs of Dover/Beast and Harlot Sound

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Cliffs of Dover/Beast and Harlot Sound
Topic Started: Aug 11 2009, 07:13 AM (529 Views)
Madmecha	Aug 11 2009, 07:13 AM Post #1
Newbie Posts: 12 Group: Members Member #9,226 Joined: July 13, 2009	Total Beginner question.... Been playing around with my AMP trying to see if I can get a sound similar to Cliffs of Dover or Beast and the harlot (the Rift part). My question... Is that a pretty basic sound off a AMP? (as in most AMPs can be tweaked to sound like it) or is that a pedal effect? or Combo?
	Ibanez RG 370DX (White) Line 6 Spider III 15 Guitar Combo Amp Yeah, I'm a Beginner


voodoorider	Aug 11 2009, 11:02 AM Post #2
Garry Posts: 673 Group: Members Member #8,964 Joined: November 3, 2008	Cliffs of dover the tone itself is fairly standard, add a little gain! Just a little, reverb, and delay, possibly some chorus too but i'm not sure about that? this is where you might need a pedal, but you won't get that close to the sound without a good guitar and amp! Beast and the harlot is pretty much just a tight high gain tone! I'd say it's harmonized with 2 guitars as well, and I'd say use the neck pickup for the verses and the bridge pickup for the chorus as it's quite a sharp tone! But again if you don't have a good amp/distortion pedal and a reasonable guitar you aren't going to get that close to their tone Have fun playing around with stuff anyway! And don't feel gutted if you can't get close to their tone! Remember these guys play the best equipment money can buy at the kind of volumes that it sounds best at! Edited by voodoorider, Aug 11 2009, 11:02 AM.
	Guitars: PRS CU 22 R/W neck \| Organic Classic \| Heritage H-150 \| Fender Eric Clapton Strat \| Fender Deluxe Ash strat, scalloped \| 2001 USA std Telecaster \| 2008 USA std Telecaster \| 1996 Gibson Les Paul standard \| PRS Santana SE \| Maverick X1 \| Epiphone SG \| Freshman FA400J Amps: Orange Rockerverb 50 \| Mesa Boogie Electradyne \| Traynor YCV40T \| VOX AD60VT \| Fender Pro 185 \| Zoom Fire 15


monwobobbo	Aug 11 2009, 02:41 PM Post #3
Posts: 1,032 Group: Moderator Member #8,625 Joined: June 23, 2008	COD will require some basic fx to get that sound. as for B&H that will require a guitar tuned down (C# i believe) to really get that sound. as Voodoo mentioned getting rock star tone with beginner equipment can be very frustrating. honestly even with good equipment it can be difficult. my best suggestion is to play around with the controls until you get the best approximation you can. along the way you'll probably find some tones you like as well.
	and now for something completely different


Madmecha	Aug 12 2009, 02:18 AM Post #4
Newbie Posts: 12 Group: Members Member #9,226 Joined: July 13, 2009	Well that at least gives me some ideas to try out. I'll play around more with my settings, I must admitt until this last week my AMP experience had been a "plug and play" and only touching the master volume control. time to get the manual out and play around with it I did notice the volume issue you mentioned. At first I praticed on a very low volume setting as I was rather shocked to find out just how loud a 15 watt AMP could realy be. Playing on the lower Vols could realy hear the hum of the strings off the guitar vs the sound off the amp. Desided to give higher vol levels a try (broke out the 18ft cords instead of the 6ft I was useing) and turned it up. The Sound was much cleaner and more robust. The hum off the strings seemed to desappear as well. Only problem now is were my Amp is currently (living room) makes it hard for anyone else to listen to anything else LOL. Time to clean a spot out in the basement
	Ibanez RG 370DX (White) Line 6 Spider III 15 Guitar Combo Amp Yeah, I'm a Beginner


monwobobbo	Aug 13 2009, 02:29 AM Post #5
Posts: 1,032 Group: Moderator Member #8,625 Joined: June 23, 2008	you have built in fx right? for COD use a little chorus and delay along with the tubescreamer to get the sound. insane distortion setting for the A7X tune. i wish i could be more specific but i don't have that amp or guitar. i do use a Line 6 POD for recording but that has way more options than your amp. as always experiment. try out all the sounds your amp can make. after a while you'll start to recognize different combos when you hear them.
	and now for something completely different


Madmecha	Aug 16 2009, 12:12 AM Post #6
Newbie Posts: 12 Group: Members Member #9,226 Joined: July 13, 2009	monwobobbo Aug 13 2009, 02:29 AM you have built in fx right? for COD use a little chorus and delay along with the tubescreamer to get the sound. insane distortion setting for the A7X tune. i wish i could be more specific but i don't have that amp or guitar. i do use a Line 6 POD for recording but that has way more options than your amp. as always experiment. try out all the sounds your amp can make. after a while you'll start to recognize different combos when you hear them. True Newb moment... Whats FX?
	Ibanez RG 370DX (White) Line 6 Spider III 15 Guitar Combo Amp Yeah, I'm a Beginner


voodoorider	Aug 16 2009, 03:21 PM Post #7
Garry Posts: 673 Group: Members Member #8,964 Joined: November 3, 2008	effects like delay, chorus, reverb, etc
	Guitars: PRS CU 22 R/W neck \| Organic Classic \| Heritage H-150 \| Fender Eric Clapton Strat \| Fender Deluxe Ash strat, scalloped \| 2001 USA std Telecaster \| 2008 USA std Telecaster \| 1996 Gibson Les Paul standard \| PRS Santana SE \| Maverick X1 \| Epiphone SG \| Freshman FA400J Amps: Orange Rockerverb 50 \| Mesa Boogie Electradyne \| Traynor YCV40T \| VOX AD60VT \| Fender Pro 185 \| Zoom Fire 15


Madmecha	Aug 17 2009, 09:06 AM Post #8
Newbie Posts: 12 Group: Members Member #9,226 Joined: July 13, 2009	Ok Yeah i have those, Thiers 3 Dials with 3 effects each, and 4 channels on my AMP. Couldn't tell you off the top of my head what each of the 9 effects are. Channel wise, its got Clear, Metal, Crazy, Crunch
	Ibanez RG 370DX (White) Line 6 Spider III 15 Guitar Combo Amp Yeah, I'm a Beginner

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