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Grounding to bridge?; wiring problem
Topic Started: Apr 27 2009, 09:51 PM (498 Views)
izzie
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Hi.
Having stripped an old (but very reliable) guitar down to respray it again, and now come to put it all back together- I suddenly noticed that the ground wire which comes out under the bridge is missing entirely despite being very thorough and careful. It's very odd because i can't even see where it was originally attached in the cavity, but I know it was there . The wiring and soldering is clean and has never been touched in it's 23 year life.
Obviously, I don't understand the wiring system, so can someone please tell me if this is actually dangerous or whether it will just risk buzz and hum?- and how to fix if i need to?
It's a double humbucker system with 2 tone pots , a volume pot, and 2 switches.
Any help would be much appreciated.
thanks.
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monwobobbo
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improper grounding can lead to shocks or worse so don't leave it unground. i dunno about grounding it to the bridge does there appear to be a spot with solder on it where the ground may have been attached? if in doubt then ask a qualified tech, bad advice in this case could be harmful to more than just your sound.
and now for something completely different
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voodoorider
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What guitar is it? it's a little bit dependant on that where is best to ground it, normally to the tailpiece provided it's accessible.

If it's Les Paul style you can ground it to the tailpiece stud sockets i think.

I'll look into it though as I'm not an expert with the electrics!
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Bullet
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Most guitars are grounded from the tremelo claw in the back. If you have a guitar with a trem, look in the back under the cover (where the springs are) and it's the peice the holds the springs into the guitar.
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mwmax
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If it helps, here are some wiring diagrams for 2 humbucker setups.
http://www.guitarelectronics.com/category/wiring_resources_guitar_wiring_diagrams.2_pickup_guitar_wiring_diagrams/

Instrument signal voltage/amperage isn't anything remotely dangerous - I'd be surprised if you could find a way to give yourself even the slightest shock, ground or not.

A ground, or earth connection is simply a 2nd return for the signal to be dissipated into a large piece of matter, if it were not all used throughout the circuit. It's more like a fail-safe rather than a vital connection, but it is very important to ground a guitar to greatly reduce buzz. Normally, everything is grounded to the back of the volume pot, and from there, connected to the bridge somehow. If that's the only connection that's missing, run a wire (speaker wire, or really any electrical wire would be fine as long as it's like 20 gauge+) from the back of where your ground connections are routed to (most likely the back of the vol pot) to the bridge however you can. Exact placement on any piece of metal that is connected to the bridge/tremolo is not vital by any means.

Hope that helped.
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